March 20, 2022 Late Night Chat with Jeff Wolverton, focus on love versus emotion, live on Zoom

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Dear folks of Baba,

This is a very subtle topic about a distinction that has serious implications in maintaining harmony at the inner level with Baba. With most people, feelings are often conflated with love, but this can be very misleading.

Emotions, feelings and desires come from the heart, our conditioning, our sanskaras. We know this. But have you been able to see that love flows in from another dimension, from the innermost dimension INTO the heart, from beyond our sanskaras?

Baba has said: “Feelings and emotions are only the creation of mind and energy. Love is the creation of the soul.”

The mandali have said that feelings are a great vehicle for love, but they are also a great vehicle for the darker emotions such as jealousy, hatred, vindictiveness, and greed. Have you seen this in your own life? Have you ever noticed that what you thought was loving turned out to be predominantly done with an ulterior selfish motive?

When Arnavaz, one of the women mandali, said to Baba that she wasn’t feeling Him, Baba replied “I never asked you to feel me. I asked you to love me.” Have you ever witnessed yourself doing something loving in spite of being in a bad mood? How is it that your mood was not able to prevent you from being loving?

Baba refers to the divinely human qualities in us—of generosity, empathy, forgiveness, humor, honesty, courage, creativity—all our best qualities. Have you noticed that emotions and desires are excitement-based, and that love with its divine qualities is tranquil-based: they are quiet, even when they give rise to enthusiasm and action?

Baba has said, " Amidst intense activity, if there is absolute calmness of mind, that is the highest love."

Have you ever encountered someone who is very very good, expressing positive emotions, and yet you somehow felt very little love from them?

When you wake up and check in with how you’re doing, do you consult your feelings, your emotions and thoughts, or do you consult the love you share with Baba?

We receive light from the moon, but the moon is not the source of its light. Its light comes from the sun.

Similarly, we receive love from the feelings, but feelings are not the source of Baba’s love.

The hidden stream of love that is ever-flowing into us begins in purity, but as it flows downstream through us, it often picks up impurities, pollutants, mixed motives. Is it possible to receive love further upstream before the mind and emotions enter into it?

I hope this is a provocative and interesting topic, in His love, Jeff

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